"i thought abit about it and it can go somewhere like social responsibilities, hence construct, hence government etc.
im trying to think what chris wld sort of say. he will ask, when we present the scenario (story) for the concept, and why is the story the best way to tell the concept - and compress it while we're at that.
like the two characters could be novice (fat) swimmer vs lazy (dozing) lifeguard. or something like that. just someone who does not fulfill his vocation, and somebody else suffers - the headline news in today's newspaper here is that a bus driver dozed off and got 10 of his passengers killed in a highway accident. we could even aim a shot at our respective govs if we think deep enough =P but i dunno whehter im thinking what you are thinking. haha."
then Elvin and I had a good, long discussion about our prospective concept that just ended. The conversation is logged here.
Benjamin says:
the theme that i thought in your story was someone who does not fulfill his vocation, and somebody else suffers
if u read my email.
is that what u were thinking?
Elf-patience says:
that and other things
i was actually picturing the old fisherman working hard at life
always looking forward to the end of the day when he makes port safely
while the contrast in the young punk neglecting his duties, slacking off
the characters never meet until the last part
Benjamin says:
hee hee sounds like us.. and some others.
=P
Elf-patience says:
when the young man sees the fisherman drowning off the coast
when the young man scrambles up to replace the lightbulb he sees the fisherman just off the coast, their gazes meet and then the waves dash his boat into the rocks
Benjamin says:
so if he dies - remorse; if he doesnt happy ending...
Elf-patience says:
yeah
dunno if it has enough punch
was just thinking of keeping it raw
Benjamin says:
raw as in?
Elf-patience says:
raw emotion like sorrow, regret,
Benjamin says:
oh.
i can see that..
is this what you really want to say?
as in.
like what miyazaki said that kind of thing?
Elf-patience says:
yeah.. like when i thought of respite
respite happens when the fisherman makes port every evening
respite in death
respite against the young man, who's conscience will punish him at the end
Benjamin says:
yup.
then we work on it ba..
it caught me.
Elf-patience says:
i dunno i think it still needs polishing
Benjamin says:
we will work on it to make something that will motivate us
Elf-patience says:
i met miss wang at a wedding the other day haha
Benjamin says:
for three months
=D
Elf-patience says:
guess we can rewrite the story in a few versions and see which will work before proceeding on
Benjamin says:
as in u saw my themes.
Elf-patience says:
or we can make him a space fisherman and a space lighthouse
yeah i did
Benjamin says:
what i really wanted to say is the unrelenting-ness
as in, i just need some mental strength from there... ahha
Elf-patience says:
teddybear =)
Benjamin says:
that was another story.
lol
i just thought the image might look funny
imagine the na'vi fighting a giant teddy bear lol
Elf-patience says:
haha
would be fun
although it would be a spoof =P
Benjamin says:
that fisherman to me, would be the hardworking, unrelenting guy ..
i would think.
Elf-patience says:
definately
Benjamin says:
like, he believes his hard work does sth to change the future, he thinks he is the master of his fate when he works hard.
but sth happens out of the blue and throws him off guard.
Elf-patience says:
hmm seems doable.. a motivation of sorts
Benjamin says:
so now his fate lies in the hands of some foreign entity - the slacker guy at the lighthouse
that's something we face too.
*hints at ict*
Elf-patience says:
LOL
excellent
Benjamin says:
so the theme is vaguely there la.. haha
Elf-patience says:
just need to crystalize it
over arching one
and the sub character tehems
Benjamin says:
i say that because i sort of feel that as well
i believe in working hard and all.
but i also fear that "something out of the blue"
that causes my fate to be robbed away from my own hands to some thing out of my control
Elf-patience says:
as in something that disrupts your grand scheme of things
yep
letting go and letting God =)
Benjamin says:
how abt someone who doesnt know god?
thats who it is for...
Elf-patience says:
meaning?
Benjamin says:
still thinking...
this discussion is getting good =D
Elf-patience says:
gotta write this down =P
Benjamin says:
as in, we see in light from "I know the thoughts i have towards you, thoughts of good and not of evil", that we can be reassured. but the fear of the unknown still lingers don't it...
esp for other ppl
who are not so-assured?
Elf-patience says:
yep
definately
thats where faith comes in no?
but its not easy to trust in the unseen and unknown
Benjamin says:
yes.
so the theme can be about addressing the fear of the unknown
Elf-patience says:
yep
thats sounds plausible
Benjamin says:
through showing the reactions of the main character
when he had to resign his fate to the
actions of a foreign, unrelated entity who positively does not know his existence.
==
Elf-patience says:
yeah
Benjamin says:
well im glad that lighthouse guy is not god.
Elf-patience says:
like the light going out
Benjamin says:
so, concept. 3 lines.
1. fear of the unknown
2. challenging the belief of the ownership of one's fate through external circumstances
Elf-patience says:
fwah cheem =)
Benjamin says:
i was going to add:
3. the consequences of each's fulfilling of asocial respoinsibilities.
=D
Elf-patience says:
yeah
put it up on the board?
Benjamin says:
it's kinda big right now.. but haha.
i feel 2 should be 1.
and vice versa.
what do u think?
Elf-patience says:
swapping it?
Benjamin says:
2. sounds more specific than "fear of the unknown"...
ah. nvm.
i suppose we start from the big -> specifics
.
sorry...
Elf-patience says:
nah its good we are thinking thru
Benjamin says:
its more like
fear of disruption / disturbance / accidents than "unknown"
haha
im trying to find a suitable fitting word.
Elf-patience says:
fear of the unfamiliar
Benjamin says:
because i can imagine the "oh no" look on chris and rashid faces when we say "fear of the unknown"...
haha
Elf-patience says:
haha
Benjamin says:
since it can mean like anything
Elf-patience says:
true true
fear of the ....hmm...
Benjamin says:
this animation addresses the irrational(?) fear for accidents, or any disturbances to our routine. When unwarranted and unforeseen circumstances threaten our ownership of our own fates whom we believe to be of our own making,
do u understand that...? lol
trying to piece together the last sentence.
Elf-patience says:
so far so good.. u understand
i understand*
Benjamin says:
*
this animation addresses the irrational(?) fear for accidents, or any disturbances to our routine. We believe that we are masters of our own fates, that we can improve our conditions by simply working hard enough. But at the same time, we fear unwarranted and unforeseen circumstances that might take away that very ownership from our hands.
3 lines...long lines.
Elf-patience says:
the owndership part is fine
irrational might not be the best word.. hmmm...let me think abt it tonight
Benjamin says:
i think it be good idea that we also log our entire conversation tonight.
Elf-patience says:
i logged
Benjamin says:
=D proof of derivation part 1. cool! thanks.
--
but as of now i think that the last two lines
are more explaining the scenario than a theme, do you?
Elf-patience says:
yeah
i think can summarize/simplify
Benjamin says:
sure. i need to check how i wrote mine this sem.. lol
A conceptual animation which highlights the issues of marketing that causes our exploitation through consumerism.
It is about how we are being constantly sold an ideal lifestyle, a dream, a promise that we are suckered into, so that we will buy advertised products.
The irony behind this: we are actually aware about the truth – that these promises are empty and the dreams will never happen – yet
it is abt how even though we continually strive for improvement, that working hard enough will bring us to a better place
we are still fearful, and aware that accidents will threaten our hard work, and the comfort of our lives
... of our status quo
Elf-patience says:
mmm
Benjamin says:
but then we got a theme on our hands.
so...let's say we move a step back from the scenario, and
Elf-patience says:
sorry ah
Benjamin says:
try to construct a new story / or
Elf-patience says:
brain doesnt function at 1am
Benjamin says:
strengthen the stroy based on this theme?
haha sure, sorry to keep u up late this hour =P
as in, dun care what to write on paper first,
we just try to make a new scenario or condense whatever we got based on this theme?
Elf-patience says:
yep
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